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08-26-2017, 06:18 PM
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(08-26-2017 06:13 PM)ctophil Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 11:36 AM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  Digital only. I'm going to wait to find out if there will be a western physical release. If not then I'll get the Japanese physical release and then the digital western release.

It is blasphemy that there might not be a physical western release. The artwork is absolutely stunning with this game and it would be a damn shame to not have it for display. I'd likely get an acrylic case for it for display on my game shelves once I build them.

If we don't get a physical, western release, it shows that the majority of people in the west don't care about physical copies, which I already know about since the 1990s. That's why you would see people throwing away their games boxes and stuff as soon as they open the game here in the west. Either that or they lose it in a pile of junk somewhere in the house.

As you know, the Japanese always gets the best artwork and releases. Because they know that a lot of people treasure and collect video games over there. There are a ton of game stores in Japan that cater toward collectible games and memorabilia. The culture over there is a world of difference.

Back to my point, I'll do the same by purchasing the Japanese physical copy if there won't be a physical, western release. I will follow up by purchasing a digital copy just to play.

(08-26-2017 12:06 PM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  FYI, pre-order/order the Japanese physical release here:

http://www.play-asia.com/seiken-densetsu.../13/70bg5b

I'm half tempted to cancel my Ys Origin preorder and get this one instead.

Do you know if that Ys Origin version is in English language and not just English subtitles?

So are you saying that what I pre-ordered isn't the same as the limited run games version?

http://www.play-asia.com/ys-origin-multi...ult-widget

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08-26-2017, 10:43 PM
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(08-26-2017 06:18 PM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 06:13 PM)ctophil Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 11:36 AM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  Back to my point, I'll do the same by purchasing the Japanese physical copy if there won't be a physical, western release. I will follow up by purchasing a digital copy just to play.

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FYI, pre-order/order the Japanese physical release here:

http://www.play-asia.com/seiken-densetsu.../13/70bg5b

I'm half tempted to cancel my Ys Origin preorder and get this one instead.

Do you know if that Ys Origin version is in English language and not just English subtitles?

So are you saying that what I pre-ordered isn't the same as the limited run games version?

http://www.play-asia.com/ys-origin-multi...ult-widget

No, that's not the same version. What you're looking at is the Japanese version packaged into a Chinese copy to be resold in the other Asian countries.

So after looking through Play-Asia some more, I noticed that games that have English will say: Language - English [scroll to the bottom]. Otherwise, it'll just say, "Subtitles - English, Chinese, Korean, etc." Take a look at Final Fantasy XV here: http://www.play-asia.com/final-fantasy-x.../13/709y1p and The Last of Us Remastered: http://www.play-asia.com/the-last-of-us-.../13/707nnx Notice that they both have Language - English. When you look at Ys Origin, it does not, only the subtitles. That means the game is in the original Japanese.

Do you want to preorder the Limited Run Edition? The preorder is over, but I can probably still talk to them to get a copy. It's still early enough to do so.
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08-26-2017, 10:55 PM
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(08-26-2017 10:43 PM)ctophil Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 06:18 PM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 06:13 PM)ctophil Wrote:  Do you know if that Ys Origin version is in English language and not just English subtitles?

So are you saying that what I pre-ordered isn't the same as the limited run games version?

http://www.play-asia.com/ys-origin-multi...ult-widget

No, that's not the same version. What you're looking at is the Japanese version packaged into a Chinese copy to be resold in the other Asian countries.

So after looking through Play-Asia some more, I noticed that games that have English will say: Language - English [scroll to the bottom]. Otherwise, it'll just say, "Subtitles - English, Chinese, Korean, etc." Take a look at Final Fantasy XV here: http://www.play-asia.com/final-fantasy-x.../13/709y1p and The Last of Us Remastered: http://www.play-asia.com/the-last-of-us-.../13/707nnx Notice that they both have Language - English. When you look at Ys Origin, it does not, only the subtitles. That means the game is in the original Japanese.

Do you want to preorder the Limited Run Edition? The preorder is over, but I can probably still talk to them to get a copy. It's still early enough to do so.

If you can get one from them please do, maybe you're helping a friend out who made this mistake. I'm going to cancel this one on play Asia and probably get a soundtrack instead. I assumed it was actually multi-language. Sad

Thanks Phll.

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08-26-2017, 11:17 PM (This post was last modified: 08-26-2017 11:26 PM by ctophil.)
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RE: [PS4/PS Vita/Steam] Secret of Mana Remake
(08-26-2017 10:55 PM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 10:43 PM)ctophil Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 06:18 PM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  So are you saying that what I pre-ordered isn't the same as the limited run games version?

http://www.play-asia.com/ys-origin-multi...ult-widget

No, that's not the same version. What you're looking at is the Japanese version packaged into a Chinese copy to be resold in the other Asian countries.

So after looking through Play-Asia some more, I noticed that games that have English will say: Language - English [scroll to the bottom]. Otherwise, it'll just say, "Subtitles - English, Chinese, Korean, etc." Take a look at Final Fantasy XV here: http://www.play-asia.com/final-fantasy-x.../13/709y1p and The Last of Us Remastered: http://www.play-asia.com/the-last-of-us-.../13/707nnx Notice that they both have Language - English. When you look at Ys Origin, it does not, only the subtitles. That means the game is in the original Japanese.

Do you want to preorder the Limited Run Edition? The preorder is over, but I can probably still talk to them to get a copy. It's still early enough to do so.

If you can get one from them please do, maybe you're helping a friend out who made this mistake. I'm going to cancel this one on play Asia and probably get a soundtrack instead. I assumed it was actually multi-language. Sad

Thanks Phll.

You're welcome, JC. I sent you a private e-mail. They should let me buy another copy as long as I ask nicely. Hehe. Grin

I pulled up another game, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege. It says, "Multi-Language" as well. But the only language it has is English. Then you got like a ton of language subtitles. Check it out here: http://www.play-asia.com/tom-clancys-rai.../13/708vol
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08-27-2017, 08:14 AM
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(08-26-2017 11:17 PM)ctophil Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 10:55 PM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 10:43 PM)ctophil Wrote:  No, that's not the same version. What you're looking at is the Japanese version packaged into a Chinese copy to be resold in the other Asian countries.

So after looking through Play-Asia some more, I noticed that games that have English will say: Language - English [scroll to the bottom]. Otherwise, it'll just say, "Subtitles - English, Chinese, Korean, etc." Take a look at Final Fantasy XV here: http://www.play-asia.com/final-fantasy-x.../13/709y1p and The Last of Us Remastered: http://www.play-asia.com/the-last-of-us-.../13/707nnx Notice that they both have Language - English. When you look at Ys Origin, it does not, only the subtitles. That means the game is in the original Japanese.

Do you want to preorder the Limited Run Edition? The preorder is over, but I can probably still talk to them to get a copy. It's still early enough to do so.

If you can get one from them please do, maybe you're helping a friend out who made this mistake. I'm going to cancel this one on play Asia and probably get a soundtrack instead. I assumed it was actually multi-language. Sad

Thanks Phll.

You're welcome, JC. I sent you a private e-mail. They should let me buy another copy as long as I ask nicely. Hehe. Grin

I pulled up another game, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege. It says, "Multi-Language" as well. But the only language it has is English. Then you got like a ton of language subtitles. Check it out here: http://www.play-asia.com/tom-clancys-rai.../13/708vol

Great. Grin I suppose I need to only use Play Asia for collecting purposes and not so much for playing purposes then. I was stoked thinking my Ys Origin was going to be the same. Appreciate the heads up here. On the positive side I cannot wait to get a soundtrack!

The cancel order button is not there so I have to email their customer service. I need this order cancelled before they ship it...

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09-28-2017, 06:12 PM (This post was last modified: 09-28-2017 06:13 PM by xlom3000.)
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Holy shit! I was watching some of the gameplay video for the Mana remake. They are using the redone version of the soundtrack from the Secret of Mana Genesis album release a few years back. I was listening to them side by side and it's 100% the same tracks from this album. Basically they got hiroki kikuta to rescore the game using uncompressed samples he used originally before having to compress everything for the snes. It's a reeeeeally good album if you haven't heard it. What makes it even better is now I get all the tracks they didn't do to for the album!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...C3DE5AB719
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09-28-2017, 09:52 PM
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I was pretty sure about getting this game for steam when it comes out, but now I'm kind of troubled about the platform. I kind of want to get it for steam, but I could also get it for PS4.
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09-29-2017, 09:54 AM
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(09-28-2017 06:12 PM)xlom3000 Wrote:  Holy shit! I was watching some of the gameplay video for the Mana remake. They are using the redone version of the soundtrack from the Secret of Mana Genesis album release a few years back. I was listening to them side by side and it's 100% the same tracks from this album. Basically they got hiroki kikuta to rescore the game using uncompressed samples he used originally before having to compress everything for the snes. It's a reeeeeally good album if you haven't heard it. What makes it even better is now I get all the tracks they didn't do to for the album!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...C3DE5AB719

I am THRILLED because I love what Kikuta did with the Genesis album. That dude is a genius and I wish he had more games composed under his belt. His work on Seiken Densetsu 2 / Secret of Mana was legendary. Some of those instrument samples sounded better than some later PSX samples. I need to get the Genesis album so I can support the artist. :)

Oh, and getting the entire soundtrack done that way will be like my brithday and xmas all rolled in to one. I LOVE the SD2/SOM soundtrack.

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10-13-2017, 06:55 PM
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Sounds like square is considering a western release for Seiken 3

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/10..._to_switch
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10-13-2017, 08:30 PM
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(10-13-2017 06:55 PM)xlom3000 Wrote:  Sounds like square is considering a western release for Seiken 3

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/10..._to_switch

Interesting article. I just want the Seiken collection translated honestly. But if a remake is all we officially get then so be it.

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12-04-2017, 03:00 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2017 03:01 PM by xlom3000.)
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https://gematsu.com/2017/12/secret-mana-...d-americas

Thought a few of you might blow a gasket over this
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12-04-2017, 04:36 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2017 05:08 PM by ctophil.)
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(12-04-2017 03:00 PM)xlom3000 Wrote:  https://gematsu.com/2017/12/secret-mana-...d-americas

Thought a few of you might blow a gasket over this

Yeah boy, I blew a gasket and then some. Grin Too bad this will be exclusive to Gamestop. Oh well, I'm not complaining since we are getting a physical edition.

BTW, Gamestop has it for pre-order already here: https://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/secre...top/156840

Update: I pre-ordered myself a copy! I can't wait for February 15th, 2018.
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12-04-2017, 05:35 PM
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in before it's just a dlc code in a box XD
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12-04-2017, 07:14 PM
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Bummer. I won't be able to get to the store soon enough to pre order. I hate Squeenix or Sony or who ever is responsible for this.

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12-05-2017, 03:58 PM
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(12-04-2017 05:35 PM)xlom3000 Wrote:  in before it's just a dlc code in a box XD

It better not be no DLC code in a box. lol. Grin I was one of the first to pre-order the game. I want a refund if it's just a piece of paper inside.

(12-04-2017 07:14 PM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  Bummer. I won't be able to get to the store soon enough to pre order. I hate Squeenix or Sony or who ever is responsible for this.

Couldn't you just pre-order online? Do you not trust the web site? I used to only stop by a Gamestop store to re-subscribe to that Power Club thing to renew my subscription to Game Informer. But now they got this new thing on the web site so you can re-subscribe to just the magazine for 2 years for cheaper than the store. I have no reason to stop by the store any longer.
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12-05-2017, 05:31 PM
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They only take full payment online. I went in a GameStop today and preordered for $5. Had to get it.

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12-05-2017, 05:40 PM
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Seems like gamestop germany doesn't even have the pre-order, althought I'm not too worried about it for now. What really bugs me is that this game doesn't have online co-op. Local co-op is fine, but at least I don't have time to meet up with friends on a daily basis since we don't really live near each other anymore.
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12-05-2017, 06:25 PM (This post was last modified: 12-05-2017 07:59 PM by ctophil.)
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(12-05-2017 05:40 PM)Lotex Wrote:  Seems like gamestop germany doesn't even have the pre-order, althought I'm not too worried about it for now. What really bugs me is that this game doesn't have online co-op. Local co-op is fine, but at least I don't have time to meet up with friends on a daily basis since we don't really live near each other anymore.

Actually, you can play online if you or your coop partner has PlayStation Plus. With Share Play, remember that local coop can be played online. Sony only recommends Internet speeds of 2 mbps or higher for Share Play. I don't think that would be a problem for most people.

Also, the physical edition is only coming to US, Canada, and parts of South America. I checked the US Gamestop, and they allow you to add German shipping addresses. So you could order the US version if you want. The PS4 is region free. It will play on your PS4. If you find out that US Gamestop won't ship to you, I can send you a copy, just let me know.

(12-05-2017 05:31 PM)JCE3000GT Wrote:  They only take full payment online. I went in a GameStop today and preordered for $5. Had to get it.

They don't charge you for pre-orders until the game ships. They ask you for a CC as a placeholder. They confirmed this is true with my order receipt.
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12-05-2017, 08:03 PM
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I can't get a confirmation one way or the other. It was originally presented with online ps4 co-op and local adhoc vita co-op, but no one's really said one thing or another since
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12-06-2017, 06:10 AM
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(12-05-2017 06:25 PM)ctophil Wrote:  Actually, you can play online if you or your coop partner has PlayStation Plus. With Share Play, remember that local coop can be played online. Sony only recommends Internet speeds of 2 mbps or higher for Share Play. I don't think that would be a problem for most people.

Nice, I didn't know that. This makes the remake way more attractive.
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